Ballard’s Earhart search fails; anyone surprised?

In like a lion, out like a lamb.  Thus ends yet another Nikumaroro-Amelia Earhart boondoggle.  This time the perp was the famed Robert Ballard, who discovered the Titanic, but the result was the same as always, as predictable as death and taxes.  Nothing related to Earhart or Fred Noonan was found, but an old lie was resurrected to keep the scam viable for future paydays(Boldface and italic emphasis mine throughout.)

As is always the case with these bogus Nikumaroro searches, you had to actually do a search to find any news about the latest failure.  Yesterday (Aug. 26) I awoke early enough to beat the news sent to my inbox by the first of a few intrepid readers.  “‘Tantalizing clue’ marks end of Amelia Earhart expedition,” National Geographic magazine whispered.  While the location of the aviator’s plane remains elusive, an artifact re-discovered after 80 years may spark new avenues of inquiry, NatGeo’s subhead cunningly adds. 

In like a lion, out like a lamb.  As of post time for this story, not a single media organization besides NatGeo, which initiated this current round of deceit — a bandwagon that most of mainstream media immediately and gleefully jumped aboard — has informed its readers that they have once again been had.  This too, is so redundantly typical of these media vermin.

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The tantalizing clue in the headline is no such thing, but another lame pretext based on already debunked evidence— the alleged bones found on Nikumaroro in 1940 that were analyzed by the only real medical professionals to have ever examined them, and found to be those of a male individual.

The bones were eventually shipped to the High Commissioner’s Office in Suva, Les Kinney wrote in a March 19, 2018 post on this blog, Les Kinney joins ‘The Truth at Last’ conversation, Shreds TIGHAR’s latest false Earhart claims.”

“An initial report was completed by the Acting Senior Medical Officer,” Kinney continued.  “The medical examiner concluded ‘they are part of a skeleton of elderly male of Polynesian race, bones having been probably in sheltered position for upwards of 20 years possibly much longer.’:

The bones were then brought to the Central Medical School and examined by Dr. D. W. Hoodless.  Hoodless took careful measurements of the bones and skull.  He noted the remains only included one half of the pelvic bone.  Hoodless obviously took into consideration the pelvic bone is symmetrical and said that in his professional opinion, the bones were that of a skeleton of total height of 5 feet 5 and ½ inches approximately.“  Hoodless went on to write “it may be definitely stated that the skeleton is that of a [MALE.]“  Hoodless emphasis.  Hoodless added, “he was not less than 45 and more probably older.”

The good news, if we can call it that, is that Ballard himself is not making any false claims to stir the pot, as TIGHAR always does, and is likely finished with this farce, as NatGeo’s designated hack Rachel Hartigan Shea reports, though she doesn’t quote him directly:

Ballard doesn’t plan on returning to Nikumaroro unless the land team finds definitive evidence that Earhart and Noonan perished there.  Yet he already knows where he’d search if he did go back to the island: Beaches further south where it’s flat enough to land and the underwater topography is much smoother—perfect for sonar, he says.

Robert Ballard’s search for Amelia Earhart on Nikumaroro was far less successful than his triumphant Titanic discovery.  (Courtesy Encyclopedia Britannica.)

Is Ballard embarrassed about his involvement with the Nikumaroro fraud, that he would be roped into this ongoing hoax, or was he in on the fix from the start, knowing the truth but going along to get along, make some extra green and please the establishment by distracting the sheeple for another news cycle?  It certainly doesn’t help his sterling résumé to have this failure attached to it.  Can Ballard actually be so uninformed about the history of Earhart research that the work of Fred Goerner, Vincent V. Loomis, Thomas E. Devine, Bill Prymak and others is completely unknown to him?  Is that possible? 

My guess is there’s no way Ballard can be that ignorant, and though we may never know for sure, Hartigan Shea might offer a clue.  [H]e doesn’t consider the search to be over, she wrote.  Indeed, after this expedition, Nautilus is heading to Howland and Baker islands to map the waters off of these U.S. Territories for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.  Perhaps something will be discovered off the shore of the island where Earhart intended to land.

Sure it will, and pigs will fly at farms and county fairs nationwide at the precise moment that happensTo read the rest of NatGeo’s Aug. 26 claptrap, please click here.

 

SUMMARY OF LATEST EARHART DISINFORMATION OPERATION

This time it started, media-wise at least, with the National Geographic’s July 23, 2019 story Robert Ballard found the Titanic. Can he find Amelia Earhart’s airplane?subheaded, Ocean explorer Robert Ballard will lead a major expedition to the remote Pacific in hopes of discovering the famed aviator’s fate.”

With the same breathless tones that accompanied countless stories that preceded TIGHAR’s Nikumaroro money-wasters over the past 30 years, National Geographic’s “Now Robert Ballard, the man who found the Titanic, is planning to search for signs of the missing aviators.  On August 7, he’ll depart from Samoa for Nikumaroro, an uninhabited island that’s part of the Micronesian nation of Kiribati.  The expedition will be filmed by National Geographic for a two-hour documentary airing October 20.”

Unsurprisingly, Ballard’s make-believe search for Amelia Earhart has mirrored the 13 (officially) visits by The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery (TIGHAR) to Nikumaroro since 1989 in many ways.  These fiascoes always start with some new fabrication, some slightly different excuse to waste all the money they’ve somehow managed to glom from sources that are never really clear, to take the hype as far as they can.

Not to be outdone, Smithsonian magazine, home of the anachronistic crashed-and-sank, official government-line apologists, responded with a July 31 tantrum, Why the Much-Publicized Mission to Find Amelia Earhart’s Plane Is Likely to Come Up Empty,subheaded, “The explorer who discovered the ‘Titanic’ is searching for the lost aviator.  A Smithsonian curator doesn’t think he’ll find it.”

On Aug, 12, sometime after Ballard and Nautilus had arrived at Nikumaroro, National Geographic led it off with Hartigan Shea’s Inside Robert Ballard’s search for Amelia Earhart’s airplane.”  Within the piece, in a 1:35 embedded video preview of “Expedition Amelia,” a two-hour NatGeo special set to air Oct. 20, Ballard puts his foot in it, telling us with supreme arrogance, “It’s not the Loch Ness Monster.  It’s not Bigfoot.  That airplane exists, which means I’m gonna find it.”  Really?

A view of Nikumaroro Atoll that Amelia Earhart never enjoyed, but that never ceases to fascinate and attract those who would exploit the trendy Earhart “theory” for all they can get, and those who believe whatever the establishment propaganda machine tells them.

The left-wing Bible New York Times soon followed that same day, with Finding Amelia Earhart’s Plane Seemed Impossible. Then Came a Startling Clue”; and the always-deceitful where Earhart is concerned Fox News chipped in with Amelia Earhart mystery: The man who discovered the Titanic is searching for the doomed aviator’s plane.”  The rest of the usual media suspects fell right in behind the leaders, like the good little monkeys they are

Just over a week later, reality had set in — on and off Nikumaroro.  NatGeo’s Aug. 20 story, Coconut crabs may hold clue to Amelia Earhart fate,subheaded, “Does the secret of the famed aviator’s disappearance lie in the underground haunts of the world’s largest land invertebrate?” simply reeked of desperation.  To this observer, to mention the crabs with five days still left on Ballard’s search schedule seemed like a tell that signaled defeat, even before the final results were in.  

This wasn’t the first time we’ve heard about how coconut crabs on Nikumaroro were going to lead TIGHAR to the Holy Grail — the bones of Amelia Earhart.  Our reliable friends from Smithsonian Magazine did a story on Dec. 26, 2013, Coconut Crabs Eat Everything from Kittens to, Maybe, Amelia Earhart,” which declaimed, According to one theory, Earhart did not drown in the Pacific but instead crashed on the remote Nikumaroro atoll, where she was eaten by coconut crabs: 

In 1940, researchers discovered a fraction of a skeleton on the island that matched the description of Amelia Earhart.  Now, even more interesting clues are arising that seem to substantiate the idea that this is where she met her demise.  The most compelling hypothesis currently under consideration is that coconut crabs overwhelmed her where she lay.

Researchers carried out an experiment to validate whether the coconut crabs had a part in her demise.  Back in 2007, they used a small pig carcass to assess what the coconut crabs might have done.  The bones were removed very quickly and scattered, according to Patricia Thrasher, TIGHAR’s president.

A coconut crab attacks a plastic trash can, which, ironically, is the perfect metaphor for the idea that Amelia Earhart was attacked and eaten by these creatures on Nikumaroro in 1937.

This ludicrous meme has redounded throughout our agitprop media ever since, thrown up against the wall to see how well it might stick when nothing else was available.  When it comes to Earhart, anything except the truth has always been fair game, to keep the masses watching the shiny object.

In an Aug. 22 blog comment, I  wrote, “I’ve read this absurd story, and if this is all they have, they might be preparing to announce the truth for a change, that nothing related to Earhart was found by Ballard and company.” 

But I added: I could be 180 degrees wrong.  Maybe they’re preparing us for a brand-new grandiose claim by first softening up their readers with this garbage, published as if no one knows anything at all about the history of Earhart research. . . . NatGeo treats its readers as if they’re hopeless morons, and sadly, in many cases they are right.  But this deal with the crabs, like last year with the dogs, is pushing the ridiculous far beyond credulity.”

It didn’t take long for NatGeo to post the next installment of its 2019 Earhart Reality Show, as Hartigan Shea’s Aug. 23 report, Amelia Earhart search crew shares personal theories on her disappearance,” brought a sliver of clarity to this spectacle:

Back on the Nautilus, Robert Ballard, the man who found the Titanic, is searching the waters off Nikumaroro for the Electra’s remains.  But that doesn’t stop him from speculating in his off hours about where else she might have landed.  Could she have touched down on the windward side of the island or possibly on another island altogether?  Based on how much gas she had left, he wondered, “What other islands were reachable and uninhabited and haven’t been searched?”  He crunched the numbers and the answer is very few.

Barre, or Burrh Island, the boxed area in this satellite photo of Mili Atoll, where Amelia Earhart crash-landed on July 2, 1937, as readers of this blog know so well.  Of course, National Geographic never uttered the words Mili Atoll or Saipan in its Aug. 26 disinformation piece announcing Robert Ballard’s failure to find any trace of Amelia Earhart’s Electra on Nikumaroro Atoll.

The answer is simple, unless you have an agenda to spew propaganda in support of the official government lie.  It’s available in several books, including Amelia Earhart: The Truth at Last, wherein all due credit is given to researcher and author Vincent V. Loomis and his 1985 book, Amelia Earhart: The Final Story, the definitive Earhart-Marshall Islands-landing work.

Multiple witnesses saw Earhart’s Electra crash-land near Barre Island, in the northwest quadrant of Mili, and she and Noonan were later seen at Jaluit, where Japanese hospital corpsman Bilimon Amaron treated Noonan for a gash on his knee while crewmen stood by and addressed Earhart as “Meel-ya, Meel-ya.”

But that and a mountain of evidence too massive to mention here aren’t good enough for NatGeo’s Ms. Hartigan Shea, who finishes her Aug. 23 entry with this insipid paragraph:

The search for Amelia Earhart is an endless puzzle, and a challenge that Ballard relishes.  So do the other members of the expedition, who have puzzled over how long Earhart could have survived on the island, what she ate, whether the coconut crabs consumed her, if her plane could have floated intact over the reef, whether rescuers tried hard enough to find her and, most poignantly, how the ardent feminist and pacifist might have changed the world if she had lived.  We may never know the answers to some of these questions but the speculation will continue as long as the mystery remains unsolved.

Never hint at the Marshall Islands-Saipan truth — that’s the ticket for these artists of disinformation, these cockroaches of deceit.  Will someone please cue the violins?  A high school freshman could write a better close than this clichéd, transparent trash In its laughable screed, NatGeo is not only lying to its readers, but it’s reached new lows in its contemptible hypocrisy. 

To wit: This crew of National Geographic propagandists pretends to know nothing about the National Geographic Channel’s Amelia Earhart special in late 2006, which was the debut of its short-lived Undercover History seriesIn that program, several aspects of the truth were presented, including Marine Pvt. Robert E. Wallack’s discovery of Amelia’s briefcase in a blown Japanese safe on Saipan in summer 1944, and Bilimon Amaron’s encounter with the fliers on a Japanese ship at Jaluit.  Just the slightest trace of that program can now be found on an Internet search, an IMDb entry that’s been swept clean of any meaningful information.  Care to guess why? 

People and organizations cover their tracks because they don’t want you to know something important that will expose their scheme, and this is just another example of big-media duplicity in the Earhart story.  For new readers who may believe that theAmelia Earhart Mystery actually exists, please see July 2, 2018: 81 years of lies in the Earhart case.”

Refusing to accept what is true, Hartigan Shea closes her Aug. 26 article with a final mendacity, informing us that “An expedition land team led by National Geographic Society archaeologist Fredrik Hiebert may have found fragments of the skull in the Te Umwanibong Museum and Cultural Centre in Tarawa, Kiribati. . . . This, too, is a fitting end to an Earhart expedition.  Just when it seems to be over, a tantalizing clue appears to lure the searchers onward.”

Calvin Pitts in 1981, with The Spirit of Winnie Mae and the thermos Amelia Earhart carried with her on her solo Atlantic Crossing in 1932.  The thermos was on loan from Jimmie Mattern, Wiley Post’s competitor who flew The Century of Progress Vega in an attempt to beat Wiley in the 1933 solo round-the-world race, but Mattern crashed in Siberia.  Calvin brought Amelia’s thermos along with him on his own successful world flight in 1981. 

Referencing NatGeo’s description of a fitting ending to what was in many respects a successful expedition, Calvin Pitts, who retraced Wiley Post’s solo 1933 world flight in 1981 and is an honored, regular contributor to this blog, wrote:  “I was stunned in disbelief that grown men could participate in such a national hoax, without embarrassmentPlease join me in a moment of levity.  They were looking for an Electra, the remains of which are buried in Saipan.  They FOUND NOTHING,  but they had the gall to say with a straight face, “THIS WAS A SUCCESSFUL EXPEDITION” — translated, ‘At least, we didn’t have a major malfunction of our equipment.’  Childishness on display.

Or far worse, I would add. 

As for the photo taken by British colonial officer Eric Bevington in October 1937 of the British freighter SS Norwich City, in the right background, and an indistinct speck on the far left side of the frame, which is presented in the Aug. 26 NatGeo story as TIGHAR’s idea ofcompelling evidencethatresembles the landing gear of a Lockheed Electra, Calvin also had a few choice words.

“Wrong,” Calvin wrote.  It looks more like the horn of a unicorn.  They have just discovered the first remains of an extinct animal in the annals of history.  Imagine grown men, professionals no less, acting like children in a sandbox.  It’s worse than laughable.  It is pathetic.  And to think that NatGeo would spend money on this long-known hoax.  Will the real Gillespie please stand up, take a bow, and go home.  Stop polluting a serious story with BS, please.  You’ve had your sick moment in the sun.  Now tend to your sunburn and leave the Earhart history to the sane and the serious.”

There you have it, dear reader.  There will be no end to the Earhart-on-Nikumaroro travesty, despite the fact that if anything in this world is known to be certain, it’s that neither Amelia Earhart, Fred Noonan nor the Electra were ever anywhere near Nikumaroro.  Now, in addition to Ric Gillespie and TIGHAR, the great Bob Ballard has performed this public service for us, as if it were actually necessary.

Who was it that said, “You can’t get blood out of a stone”?

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  1. Mike,

    Very good.

    Love it. “You can’t get blood out of a stone”? True, but they managed to make stones out of gall. Time to call the doctor of truth for Operation Tighar.

    An excellent piece of work.

    Calvin

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  2. Oops. And what if Ballard is not on board for the Howland Island part of the cruise to directly supervise the crew and scientists? Well, since the ship will be out of the “dark” period, we just might want to watch the livestream and Ballard can direct them from his kitchen in his PJs. LOL

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  3. William H. Trail | Reply

    Greetings to All:

    Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, USN (Ret.), through Navy public information officer Commander John Pillsbury, told Fred Goerner that he (Goerner) was on the right track and wanted him to continue, and that Goerner was on to something that would “stagger his imagination.” That stunning affirmation to Fred Goerner coming from such a great man as Admiral Nimitz is profound to say the very least, and it sure beats anything TIGHAR, the National Geographic Society, or the Smithsonian Institution, et. al., have ever had to offer on the disappearance of Amelia Earhart.

    All best,

    William

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  4. I don’t see any mention of this on the Tighar website…..hmm. Then again, “Gillespie said he wishes Ballard luck, but gives the veteran explorer only a 20% chance of finding Earhart’s plane because so much time has passed and the harsh conditions at the reef”.

    “It was there. There’s no doubt it was there,” Gillespie told public radio. “But there might not be anything left to find.” Preliminary excuses for the known outcome.

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  5. My “highlights reel” – I am saving for those days when I am feeling glum and need a little chuckle:

    “As is always the case with these bogus Nikumaroro searches, you had to actually do a search to find any news about the latest failure.”

    “Sure it will, and pigs will fly at farms and county fairs nationwide at the precise moment that happens. ”

    “Wrong,” Calvin wrote. “It looks more like the horn of a unicorn. They have just discovered the first remains of an extinct animal in the annals of history. “

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  6. My only comment is to echo that famous line from the old tv show “Gomer Pyle- “Surprise, Surprise,surprise”!

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  7. The reason we all laugh at this is that one does not take child’s play seriously … unless they’re in the sandbox. And in there, “you broke my toy” is serious business That’s when father has to intervene.

    And where is father now, what with Ballard adding his toy to the hoax? Well, we know the answer to that — still promoting the truth, as he has been for over 30 years.

    KUDOS, Mike.

    With appreciation for all your time-consuming labor,

    Calvin

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  8. Mike, I think the phrase is, “You can’t get blood out of a rock.” Great summary of what happened out there with Ballard this summer. What gets me is how incredibly boring this “documentary” is going to be when it airs on Oct 20. Two hours of nothing? But it will probably get viewers because the names Earhart and Ballard are in it.

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    1. William H. Trail | Reply

      Ken,

      The upcoming Nat Geo program should be about as interesting as watching paint dry. Seriously, there’s not a whole lot they can do unless the first hour and forty minutes are just background information about Amelia Earhart’s life, the World Flight up to the takeoff from Lae, New Guinea, TIGHAR’s previous fruitless searches of Nikumaroro, some background on Dr. Ballard and his previous successes, and then maybe 15 to 20 minutes at most of the just concluded expedition.

      All best,

      William

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  9. Ric Gillepsie – The Prince of Yarners — who’s tangle will never go straight, rows slower & slower through another dried bed.

    Tomfoolery’s mysterious crab hollows, of talking bones & singing eggs, emit lightening from lizard tails, that raise up the dead; gives old Salt & Pickles the winds he needs to sail further ahead.

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  10. This just in from “The Sun” ……..MYSTERYSOLVED? Skull thought to belong to doomed pilot Amelia Earhart is sent for DNA testing.
    “The group say the bones were housed in a museum on the Pacific Island of Tarawa.”
    Who knew?
    It doesn’t say who made this astonishing discovery,maybe it was Tom King. Stand by for further bulletins. I’m on the edge of my seat. Maybe this will be featured in the TV program.
    I can hardly wait to tell all my friends.

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    1. William H. Trail | Reply

      David,

      Is there a link to The Sun article? Thanks in advance.

      All best,

      William

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      1. It was in my Google news on my cell phone so don’t know how i would provide a link.

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      2. There’s nothing new in this story, just the same old, same old. But here’s the link:

        Warning: Myriad pop-ups make it nearly impossible to view without great irritation.

        Mike C.

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      3. William H. Trail

        Mike,

        Many thanks. I found this article online this morning.

        https://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/possible-earhart-skull-fragments-found/

        Anything to keep the Nikumaroro theory alive.

        All best,

        William

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    2. “Now a National Geographic expedition to find out what happened has turfed up skull fragments that experts say may have belonged to Amelia. Led by Robert Ballard, the deep-sea explorer who famously found the wrecked Titanic, the group say the bones were housed in a museum on the Pacific island of Tarawa”. So, the NatGeo EXPEDITION led by the famous DEEP-SEA explorer found some bones housed in a museum…..yes, I guess that about sums it up.

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  11. Maybe the Bevington-sea monster ate the aircraft..its as ludicrous as
    The other “evidence.” Check out the serious research and analysis
    On earhartsearchpng.com

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    1. Come on, Robin. Are you seriously telling us that the real “serious research” can be found at David Billings’ site, and not here? I’ve done more than anyone to shed light on David’s work on this blog. The New Britain mystery is truly a conundrum, and I’ve always hoped he could find the wreck and clear it up. However, none of that changes AE’s landing at Mili Atoll in an Electra with NR 16020 on its wings, nor her death on Saipan, elements of the story that David conveniently doesn’t address at all on his site.

      MC

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      1. Sorry for late reply! Didn’t see this as I’m not always following the AE websites. I’m a retired intelligence analyst/instructor interested in lost aircraft as well as a developer of research and analytical methods to solve POW/MIA cases, but sometimes historic enigmas too, like Earhart. I didn’t say your site wasn’t serious research. I was referring to the Nikumaroro scam.

        Regarding David’s hypothesis, what specifically disturbs you about his research aside from what he does NOT address? I’m just curious as I am a fan of his analysis and reviewed all of the primary documents and find them compelling. I’m interested in debunking if possible because only the truth really matters, but I think his work is solid and difficult to dismiss if you take the time to digest it without unintentional bias. And additional supporting evidence has come out–with excruciatingly detailed analysis–since 2019 in the Australian Archives. I recommend you and others take another serious look with an open mind (without any assumptions).

        I have not read your theories carefully I admit, but let just for a minute suppose you are incorrect and she did not land at Mili Atoll or die in Saipan. As an analyst I have seen an inordinate amount of erroneous reporting and misinterpreted “clues”; but the WWII map David discovered –in addition to the supporting documents in the archives– is extremely difficult to debunk and I’ve tried. I am not here to dismiss your theory, and when time allows I will look into your evidence, so please do not reply with your theory about MIli and Saipan–just interested in hearing what issue you have specifically with David’s analysis.

        Thanks!!

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      2. For someone who calls himself a researcher, you’ve done little actual reading. Failing to leave your last name doesn’t speak much for your credibility either. You can start with what three lengthy posts I’ve done right here on this blog:

        “New Britain theory presents incredible possibilities” of Dec. 5, 2016.
        https://earharttruth.wordpress.com/2016/12/05/new-britain-theory-presents-incredible-possibilities

        “Billings’ latest search fails to locate Earhart Electra” of Jan. 22, 2017
        https://earharttruth.wordpress.com/2017/06/22/billings-latest-search-fails-to-locate-earhart-electra

        “Fraser has new slant on East New Britain mystery”
        https://earharttruth.wordpress.com/2019/03/01/fraser-has-new-slant-on-east-new-britain-mystery

        FYI, I don’t have “theories” about the big picture, but as to the precise movements of the Electra after it went missing, this much is certainly open to speculation, based on David Billings’ findings in PNG. See my “Earhart Disappearance Position Statement” page for much more.

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      3. David Atchason

        I had resolved to “lay low’ on this blog, at least for a while. However I can’t resist commenting on Mr. Fraser’s postulation concerning the plane found at Aslito Field in 1944. From reading TAL, I believe the eyewitnesses on Mili Atoll saw, presumably AE and Noonan, get into a yellow life raft and paddle to shore. To me, this means that the plane was at least partially underwater. Probably part of the engines, too. Also it is said one wing was partially broken off.

        If I read Mr. Billings right, a plane in this condition would be “totalled” that is, not worth salvaging. Then the reason Japanese would restore it and take it to Saipan completely eludes me. So, when Mr. Fraser proposes it was a duplicate of Amelia’s plane that still flew, this is at least in the realm of possibility. If some pilot got in it and flew it around, it most likely was not booby-trapped, one would have to conclude. Although, if it were really her plane, why a US pilot would want to fly it around seems the most unlikely of all possible things to do with such a valuable find. I can see destroying it, but if you are going to do that, why not do it immediately after its discovery? So neither Devine’s or Fraser’s account is completely convincing, at least to a civilian like me.

        Why the Japanese would rig up a duplicate plane for the Americans to discover doesn’t align with what I have read about the Japs being practical jokers. Presumably they weren’t.

        Sincerely,
        David

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  12. Truth of the matter is she loved Harbour Grace so much she returned under an assumed name, lived with a fisherman and worked in the local fish plant.

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    1. I served in the Navy at Argentia in Newfoundland for two years, 1979-1981, and visited Harbor Grace. This sounds like something a native “Newfie” might say, half-jokingly of course.
      MC

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  13. Robin shwetzer | Reply

    In response to your response to my comment; I don’t write on these Earhart forums very often precisely due to the tone of your response. Why is what I wrote deserving of such a defensive response? You are correct, I didn’t read your blog thoroughly as I clearly admitted. I simply noticed you responded to my comment from over 2 years ago and asked you to summarize your concerns with Billing’s hypothesis. I usually stay off the Earhart blogs these days so I didn’t see your response until today. You could have simply referred me to those links without the attitude 🙂

    And by the way, I am a woman and my last name is Shwetzer. I didn’t use my last name because I left it out of the last comment in 2019 when I was still working for the intelligence community and didn’t think about it today. I’m not looking for credibility I was simply asking you a question; not arguing with you. If you want to know more about my “credibility” you can listen to a podcast I was on in November 2021 along with a retired CIA Historian at the link below. The episode is on the search for the first CIA agent killed in action, Douglas Mackiernan, Jr. killed in Tibet in 1950. The podcast is called “Coming in From the Cold,” Untold Stories of the Cold War from The Center for Naval Analyses (CNA). Your audience may be interested in this other search effort and dozens more in support of POW/MIA families.

    https://www.cna.org/our-media/podcasts/coming-in-from-the-cold/35

    Kind regards (and lighten up you may find more followers!!),
    Robin

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    1. This is not a place for the thin skinned or those who easily take offense. It’s not the Church of Nice or Miss Manners’ Facebook Page. I don’t get paid for numbers, and those who have left because they don’t like my “tone” are few and we’re better off without them, as none have ever had anything of substance to offer.

      I answered your question immediately about Billings with links to three lengthy posts that addressed the issues you voiced, and much more. You didn’t thank me — and I wonder if you even read my comprehensive and very positive pieces about David Billings, who I consider a friend, or at least a friendly associate — but instead scolded me about my “tone” and then introduced your own topic out of the blue. No one has written more and more glowingly about David and the work he’s done than I.

      We have only one agenda here: Getting at the truth. I have only my integrity and reputation in this work, and have never asked for money for myself. Everyone is treated fairly here, and only posts from the seriously unstable, obvious troublemakers and the malicious aren’t approved. These are few, I might add.

      I see that you’ve signed up to follow this blog — a good decision, and if you take the time to read, one that will exponentially increase your knowledge of the truth in the Earhart disappearance.

      Sincerely,
      Mike

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      1. Robin Shwetzer

        Hi Mike
        As I said I did NOT read your posts about Billings but will do so when time allows.

        I only added the information about my podcast interview because you said I lacked credibility. That’s all.

        This is your website and you have the right to run it as you wish. I meant no disrespect. This is not about being “thin skinned.” I was just confused as to why you were so defensive when I merely asked a question with NO criticism of you or your site.

        Best wishes on your endeavors,
        Robin

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    2. David Atchason | Reply

      Robin, I am a supporter of David Billings and also have my own ideas about where Amelia might have landed which are not well received on this blog. If you want to learn more about my theory, please email me at datchason@gmail.com.

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  14. David Atchason | Reply

    I was going over old posts on this blog just now. It’s funny how I can miss various things and discover them much later, Mike, I think you sometimes put my posts back in the middle of the comments because I seem to be answering somebody else’s post so when I look for my post to appear at the end of all the submissions it’s not there but somewhere in the middle. But no problem, not important.

    I did discover just now the reference to William’s FB page about the Yukon plane crash/disappeared plane. Well, surprise, Alan just wrote me he found that plane, but it is in Alaska, not Yukon. He did send me pictures, but I was not familiar with the story so I didn’t know what to make of them. I trust that the reaction to his discovery will be the usual………crickets. If I had tons of money and maybe some motivated companions, I would go look for these planes he finds. When I actually discover one of them I think I know what will happen when I try to publicize my find. Nothing. I suspect that the planes he finds are already known and for whatever reason the “State” doesn’t want them known. There seems to be a pattern here. Maybe the authorities are embarrassed that an amateur can find what they can’t. I don’t have the answer but I do trust Alan is right.

    Sincerely,
    David

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    1. Are you saying Alan is the first to find this lost plane wreck? And the mainstream is ignoring this? You “do trust that Alan is right,” but of course we are all suspect, right, Dave?

      I think William and likely Calvin would be very interested in knowing more about this alleged find by Alan. I hope it’s more than some fuzzy anomaly on a google earth map, or you’ve got nothing, once again. Put up or shut up, please.

      I don’t put your replies anywhere. The wordpress program does that when you post your comment. You are not being picked on or discriminated against, as you might imagine.

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  15. David Atchason | Reply

    All I know is this: I friended Alan on FB and occasionally he sends me an email or posts on FB about some plane he as found. What do I know? All I see is some fuzzy or faint image of some plane in some wilderness presumably. To study one of these images is, as you know, I think, mentally laborious. If I can make out the numbers he says, how do I know that this is the historic plane he says it is? Where do you look for images of lost planes from 50 years ago or more?

    I would think if you had a courteous conversation with Alan he would explain what happens with his sigtings. Why the Boggs “family” would brush him off, I don’t know. Why the Army rejects his sighting of the Greenland plane wreck, I don’t know. He has shown me the copy of their (Army) rejection letter. He says the Smithsonian expressed no interest in his sighting of Amelia’s plane, saying, “Their interest is in preserving her legacy” presumably NOT finding her plane.

    I have been corresponding with David Billings who informs me that after “flying N & S” at 0843 Amelia sent 4 more messages (Tx?) all picked up by Nauru. There is, of course, “LISA” but the other 3, ten hours later were “not readable” but the operator at Nauru knew Amelia’s voice. David believed that the Jaluit dock photo had been debunked, not knowing about the letter from Kiribati authorities saying the dock was not built until 1936 so the Jap debunkers claim of 1935 photos (in the amateurish supposed Palau tourist handbook) can’t be right, so the debunker was discredited. David does not believe she could transmit if she landed in the water, but I disagree. Maybe he thinks she could transmit after landing in the jungle of New Britain. I haven’t bothered to figure out how long it would take for her to fly to New Britain from Howland vicinity.

    Now, my belief is that the Betty Klenck reception was real because that’s how I figured out Amelia was saying “Nonouti.” I know in some circles this puts me wearing a tinfoil hat but I call them as I see them. Why Betty could hear and Nauru or Itasca didn’t, is a very good question. Or did they all hear? Could Amelia be trying to communicate through Alan and me? I have had experience with at least one dead friend communicating with me for years. Not with spoken, but with signs that I have learned to pick up quickly, orbs and mists in my photos, etc. Also physical contact. At least one other friend has experienced this with a deceeased pal. So I am certain the dead can communicate back to us.

    I was not complaining about my posts not being put where I expect or maybe other’s pertinent posts, I can see how Word Press might do that. I was just complaining that somehow I miss stuff first time around and find curious info later.

    Sincerely,
    David

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