Did Nina Paxton hear Amelia’s calls for help? “Absolutely,” says longtime researcher Les Kinney

Another July has nearly passed, a month when, for decades, two things have been certain.  Many will flock to Atchison, Kansas for the annual Amelia Earhart Festival love-in on her July 24 birthday, and a new dose of recycled snake oil purporting to solve the so-called “Earhart Mystery” as dictated to media stenographers by Ric Gillespie of TIGHAR, the only “internationally recognized expert” to whom anyone should listen, will be injected into a culture sodden with lies about Amelia’s fate.  We’ve been watching this revolting circus of endless deceit for 30 years now, with no relief in sight.

Last year Gillespie brought cadaver dogs to Nikumaroro to search for the remains of the lost fliers.  Words fail to express how utterly ridiculous this idea was, once one understands how many people lived and died there since the late 1930s, none of them Earhart or Fred Noonan!  Even more ludicrous, the U.S. and world media reported this absurd spectacle as if it were a serious attempt to find them, while an ignorant, incurious public looked on without a word of protest against this attack on all common sense.

(Editor’s note:  Soon after this post was published, TIGHAR’s Tom King Ph.D. wrote to inform us that “Ric didn’t take the forensic dogs to Nikumaroro; he opposed our taking them.  You can blame National Geographic and me for that outrage.”)

Amelia turned 121 on July 24, but who’s counting?  Once in a blue moon the lady who was part tomboy, part grease monkey and all pilot would dress up for a photographer, and at these times she could be quite stunning, as in the above.  Happy Birthday, Amelia!  (Courtesy Bachrach.)

We can fairly wonder why our esteemed media gatekeepers never asked TIGHAR’s boss why he would be looking for Earhart’s bones on Nikumaroro, when the bones found there in 1940 were long gone, and according to University of Tennessee professor Richard L. Jantz, were almost certainly Earhart’s?  On March 7, 2018, The Washington Post covered the story thusly: Bones discovered on an island are hers, a new analysis shows.” 

This July, Gillespie didn’t ask the credulous to believe that a jar of freckle cream, discarded pieces of aluminum, an old shoe sole, a zipper, a woman’s compact or even long disappeared human bones are proof that Earhart and Fred Noonan landed on Nikumaroro in the Phoenix Islands and died of starvation a week later on an island overflowing with food and water sources.

Gillespie has taken a more subtle approach this year, perhaps realizing that nearly everyone except the truly brain dead have had their fill of the annual hysteria and phony hype about the imminent “solution to the Earhart mystery” that he and his minions will soon produce.  These  disinformation drills are always followed by absolutely nothing, as another worthless claim is debunked and falls by the wayside, relegated to the garbage pile of the assorted flotsam and jetsam that Gillespie and his cronies have scraped and dug out of Nikumaroro, where hundreds of native settlers and even U.S. Coast Guardsmen lived from the late 1930s to the ’60s.

In a lengthy paper titled “The Post-loss Radio Signals” he authored with Robert Brandenburg, Gillespie brings out his trademark bells, whistles, colorized graphs and charts that have long dazzled and bamboozled the unwary and made him infamous among the literate to proclaim:  “As with Dr. Jantz’s findings, the patterns and relationships emerging from the data show that TIGHAR has answered the 81-year-old question: what really happened to Amelia Earhart?”  None of this is new, and nothing Gillespie conjures up will ever place the lost fliers on Nikumaroro, because they were never there, as a mountain of legitimate evidence tells all who bother to take their eyes off the shiny objects TIGHAR is constantly waving at them.

The Washington Post, long a stalwart in the TIGHAR water-carrying brigade, led the way in this season’s current propaganda blitz with its July 25 story, Amelia Earhart’s last calls: Research suggests dozens heard radioed cries for help.”  Here’s the key excerpt from the Post story we will focus on forthwith:

On July 3, for example, Nina Paxton, an Ashland, Ky., woman, said she heard Earhart say “KHAQQ calling,” and say she was “on or near little island at a point near” . . . “then she said something about a storm and that the wind was blowing.”

“Will have to get out of here,” she says at one point.  “We can’t stay here long.”

Note that the Washington Post says nothing about where the radio signals came from that Paxton claims she heard, despite the fact that Paxton named that location in some of her letters.  Of course not, because the Marshall Islands are nowhere near Nikumaroro, where Gillespie and TIGHAR’s cash cow lives. 

Fox News, along with the rest of the usual suspects, followed the Post story with its own version of the same agitprop, and three comments with my name and Amelia Earhart: The Truth at Last were expunged shortly after they appeared on the Fox News site.  This was reported to me by staunch supporter William Trail, who notices such things.  When it comes to the Earhart story, Fox News is far worse than the hated Washington Post, which Fox demeans as being too liberal.  Can you blame me for despising this “fair and balanced” news Gestapo? 

At least the Post briefly mentioned Amelia Earhart: The Truth at Last in its new article, and even provided a link to its July 11, 2017 story, which gave me a few paragraphs to vent, thanks to Amy B. Wang, the story’s co-author who took the time to briefly interview me.  Pigs will fly before Fox News or any of the other mainline media would even consider doing such a thing.

In a letter to Fred Goerner describing her July 3 radio reception, Nina Paxton wrote, “We lost our course yesterday and came up here.  Directly Northeast of a part of Marshall Islands near Mili Atoll.”  (Photo courtesy Les Kinney.)

Longtime researcher Les Kinney has plenty more to say about Paxton’s claims, and he doesn’t file his stories with Fox News, the Washington Post or any other news organizations, for obvious reasons.  Occasionally he brings his work here, where the truth is always welcome and most appreciated, especially when it sheds new light on nagging questions.

The last time we heard from Kinney was his March 9 dismantling of the aforementioned TIGHAR-Richard Jantz-bones fantasies.  Although we still differ over his belief about the identity of the figure sitting on the dock in the Jaluit-ONI photo of History Channel infamy, as far as I can discern, we agree on virtually everything else of significance. 

Without further delay, here’s some real Earhart news, courtesy of an Earhart researcher whose findings, with one well-known exception, will not be found in our corrupt media. (All boldface emphasis mine.)

“The Nina Paxton Papers
By Les Kinney

At about 2:20 in the afternoon of July 3, 1937, Nina Paxton was fiddling with the tuner on her Philco radio in Ashland, Kentucky.  Suddenly, she heard Amelia Earhart In a very clear strong voice. For a few seconds, Nina attended to the needs of her five-year old son thinking Miss Earhart must be on a training flight.  When she then realized Amelia was crying for help, she listened and took a few notes.  A few minutes later, Earhart was gone.

Until her death on Christmas Day, 1970, Nina Paxton told anyone who would listen that Earhart had crash landed in the Marshall Islands.  She tried to remember everything she heard that day. She began standing vigil over her radio listening to the shortwave band hoping to hear Amelia again.  A few years later, Nina wrote to Rand McNally looking for information on the Marshall Islands.  She developed a guilt complex and believed she hadn’t done enough to save Earhart’s life.  She searched for new memories, words or phrases Amelia might have said on that early July afternoon that might have previously escaped her.  No one seemed to believe her.  In the mid-1940s, she wrote to the Office of Naval Intelligence, Walter Winchell, and the FBI.  Toward the end of her life she corresponded with Fred Goerner, the bestselling author of The Search for Amelia Earhart.  Nina’s letters always carried the same general message: Amelia Earhart landed in the Marshall Islands.

Skeptics said Nina could have gotten her information from newspapers, radio, and seeing the 1943 movie Flight for Freedom.  The fact that Nina waited a full week to tell her local newspaper didn’t help her credibility.  On July 9, 1937, the following brief article appeared in the Ashland Daily Independent.  It differs from Nina’s notes from July and August 1937.  Nina had more to say than the local reporter sent to print:      

Mrs. C.B. Paxton, 3024 Bath Avenue, told the Independent she heard the distress message of Amelia Earhart noted American woman flyer lost in the Pacific ocean last Saturday afternoon at two o’clock.  Miss Earhart and her navigator Frederick J. Noonan, last were heard from in the air at 2:12 EST last Friday when they said they had only a supply of gas good for thirty minutes.

This news story appeared in the Ashland (Kentucky) Daily Independent on July 9, 1937.

The message came in on my short wave set very plain,”  Mrs. Paxton said,and Miss Earhart talked for some time.  I turned the radio down one time to talk to my little child and then turned it back up to catch the last part of the message.

I didn’t understand everything Miss Earhart had said,Mrs. Paxton told the Independent,because there was some noise.  She gave the following message as she understood it:

“Down in ocean,” then Miss Earhart either said ‘on,’ ‘or’ [sic] near little island at a point near. . . .” After that Mrs. Paxton understood her to say something about “directly northeast,” although she was not sure about that part. “Our plane about out of gas. Water all around very dark.”  Then she said something about a storm and that the wind was blowing.  “Will have to get out of here,” she said.  “We can’t stay here long.”

The message was preceded by Miss Earhart’s call letters, “KHAQQ calling, KHAQQ calling.”    

Because Nina’s letters in the 1940s were so passionate, I suspected what she had to say was true.  Why would she lie?  Nina was educated, married, a registered nurse, and had no bone to pick.  When I started investigating her background, I found out she died a widow in Ashland, Ky., Christmas Day in 1970.  She left no family.  Her husband passed away in 1954.  Her son got into one scrape after another until he ended up in prison.

It took me three years and quite a bit of luck to locate the Paxton papers.  Eventually, I discovered Nina’s Earhart files at tiny Mars Hills University in the mountains of western North Carolina.  They were donated to the university by a wife of a doctor that had worked with Nina in the 1950s.  The Paxton box had been collecting dust in a library storeroom since 1975.

I planned to report the Paxton findings in the book I am writing on the disappearance of Amelia Earhart.  Recent events caused me to change my mind.  TIGHAR just released a new Post Loss Radio Study touting the claims of Betty Klenck in 1937, who as a 15-year-old claimed to have heard Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan on her home radio for several days.  None of the post-loss radio messages collected by TIGHAR give a location where Amelia and Fred went down.  The Paxton papers tell us Earhart and Noonan went down in the Marshall Islands.  Mars Hills University recently put a few of Nina Paxton’s letters on the internet:  http://southernappalachianarchives.org/ /show/4It is time to share my findings.

There are over a hundred letters, some notes, and a few newspaper and magazine clippings making up the Paxton material.  I copied them all.  The first letter is dated July 14, 1937.  Nina continued to write and offer insight into the Earhart disappearance until close to her death.  After reviewing all the files, it appears there might be a few writings and reference notes missing.

At about 2 p.m. on July 3, 1937, local time, Nina Paxton heard Amelia Earhart’s distressed voice announce she had gone down in the Marshall Islands.  Nina had no idea where the Marshall Islands were located.  Nor did she know the call sign for Amelia Earhart’s Lockheed Electra wasn’t KHABQ.  After hearing Earhart on her radio, Nina went to the Ashland Police Department and then to a nearby Coast Guard Station to report what she had heard.  They laughed at her and said the call sign for Earhart’s Electra was KHAQQ.  It was for this reason that Nina didn’t tell the local press of Earhart’s distress message until July 9, 1937.  Nina had no idea the call sign for Earhart’s previous plane, a Lockheed Vega, was KHABQ.  A tired, exhausted, worried and emotionally drained Amelia Earhart blurted out her old call sign the day Nina heard the distress message on July 3, 1937.  It would have been an easy thing to do.

“There is a picture of Amelia and Fred on the internet standing next to the tail of the Electra looking over such a map,” Les Kinney writes.  “If they relied on that map, Fred would have only had a general idea where he and Amelia had gone down.”

Nina Paxton heard the only post-loss radio report giving a specific location where Amelia and Fred landed.  During the two months following Earhart’s disappearance, Nina enclosed her rough notes in the letters she sent to Mrs. Noonan, George Palmer Putnam, Walter Winchell and Congressman Fred M. Vinson.  Nina typed the rough notes out twice and tried not to embellish what she had heard.  She created spaces where she was unsure of a word or phrase.  The first rough note is without a heading.  The second one is titled, Call of a Courageous Lady.”  She didn’t like that either and scratched it out.

In some of her later notes, which aren’t on Mars Hill’s website, Nina wonders why Amelia used the time of her arrival as 2:20.  She possibly thought Earhart might have converted the time to Eastern Standard Time and makes that point in later letters.  Nina puts this confusion in parentheses.  Nina’s two rough notes held by Mars Hill University seem to be a cumulative compilation she completed sometime in August 1937.  Nina says “the plane was damaged in landing near a part of Marshall Islands.”  Amelia says Noonan was injured, and that he “doesn’t walk very well, and that he (Noonan) bruised his leg badly when landing.”

(Editor’s note:  This detail about Noonan’s leg injury is directly reflected by eyewitness Bilimon Amaron’s account to several researchers, including Vincent V. Loomis.  See pages 107-108 in Amelia Earhart: The Final Story.)

In a letter to George Putnam dated Aug. 5, 1937, Nina writes she found a piece of scratch paper she had written while listening to Earhart.  Miss Earhart mentioned three little islands.  The little one (perhaps a reef) they were on, north of Howland Island at a point very near an island she called “Marshall.”  (Sadly, this little piece of scratch paper is missing from the Mars Hill holdings.)  Rather naively, Nina tells George Putnam in a letter dated Aug. 5, 1937, “If there is an island known by the name of Marshall and it can be contacted, I believe it well worthwhile to do so at once as I am sure Miss Earhart, and Captain Noonan will be found in this area.”  

Early researchers Vincent Loomis and Oliver Knaggs in the late 1970s and early 1980s focused their attention on the middle of three islands at Mili Atoll.  On my recent trips to Mili Atoll, we discovered airplane artifacts in the middle of three small islands.  Nina’s rough notes indicate she heard Earhart say, “Directly north-east of a part of Marshall Islands, 90 ****173 longitude and 5 latitude.  We missed our course yesterday and came up here.”

This section of the “Sketch Survey” of Mili Atoll taken from U.S. and Japanese charts focuses on the northwest quadrant of Mili Atoll, where Barre Island is clearly noted.  Native witnesses saw the Electra come down near Barre, and Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan were seen embarking the Electra and seeking shelter on one of the tiny Endriken Islands nearby.  Recent searches of the area by Dick Spink and Les Kinney have uncovered several artifacts that might have come from the Earhart Electra, but testing has not solely linked them to the Earhart plane to the exclusion of all others. 

No one knows whether Fred Noonan carried sectional maps for the Marshall Islands.  The U.S. Navy hadn’t the opportunity to map the area since the Japanese took control in 1914.  It wasn’t on their planned route and its likely Fred had to rely on an old British map of the Pacific from his seafaring days.  There is a picture of Amelia and Fred on the internet standing next to the tail of the Electra looking over such a map.  If they relied on that map, Fred would have only had a general idea where he and Amelia had gone down.

When Nina heard Amelia Earhart on the afternoon of July 3, 1937, she scratched down a few words where Amelia said they had landed.  90 ******173 longitude and 5 latitude.  If you look on a map, 5 degrees North latitude and 173 East longitude is not far from Mili Atoll.  (End of “Nina Paxton Papers.” )

I devoted nine pages of Chapter III, “The Search and the Radio Signals,” in Truth at Last, a section titled “The ‘Post-Loss’ Radio Messages” (pages 40-49 TAL 2nd Ed.) to an examination of most of the significant alleged receptions from Amelia, but omitted Nina Paxton’s claims because at the time I wasn’t enthusiastic about them and hadn’t properly researched the Paxton claims to write about them intelligently.  Thanks to Les Kinney, we’re now much smarter about Nina Paxton.

So what are we to believe?  Did Amelia Earhart send radio messages from her downed Electra, transmissions that were heard by Nina Paxton in Ashland, Ky., by Pan American Airways, U.S. Navy stations in the central Pacific and numerous amateur radio operators in the continental United States?  I’m not technically smart enough to claim any special insights, but I’ve presented the educated verdicts of several experts in radio propagation and reception capabilities of the day in several posts.  For what its worth, I think Nina Paxton’s account could be the most compelling of all these alleged messages, and should be taken seriously at the very least. 

You can find an extensive discussion of the significant post-loss messages in the three posts I wrote on this subject in 2014:

Earhart’s “post-loss messages”: Real or fantasy? published April 30, 2014, followed by Experts weigh in on Earhart’s ‘post-loss’ messages two weeks later, and finally Amelia Earhart’s alleged ‘Land in sight’ message remains a curiosity, if not a mystery | Amelia Earhart: The Truth at Last on May 27, 2014.

30 responses

  1. Hi Mike,

    Thanks for sharing Les Kinney’s and your own opinions on the post-loss radio signals. It’s not something we can be dogmatic about, that’s for sure. All we can say with certainty is that it would be human nature to use whatever means was at our disposal to contact the outside world when faced with this predicament. As to whether her radio was capable or not, I am not qualified to say. All I can say is that if she had a capable radio, be it one we know about, or one we don’t … she would have used it!

    Presumably, if she was transmitting after landing on Mili Atoll, this would have enabled the Japanese Navy to pinpoint her position with even greater accuracy if they were in the least doubt as to where she had landed?



  2. Very interesting, Mike, but I wish you’d stop ascribing to Ric Gillespie everything anyone does that’s associated with TIGHAR. Ric didn’t take the forensic dogs to Nikumaroro; he opposed our taking them. You can blame National Geographic and me for that outrage. I hope you’ll review my new novel about Earhart on Nikumaroro: “Amelia Earhart UNRESCUED.” I’m sure you’ll be charmed.


    1. Dr. King,

      Thanks for the clarification on whose idea it was to take the dogs to Nikumaroro. I will make a note of it on the original post. As for reviewing your book, you know that’s not going to happen here. Earhart novels have never been helpful to the truth, and I’m sure yours would be particularly annoying.


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      1. Gee, Mike, I wouldn’t expect you to review my novel FAVORABLY. I’m sure it must be annoying to anyone who, like yourself, is in possession of the TRUTH to be presented with even the most hypothetical alternatives, but we lesser mortals might benefit from your insights.


      2. Finally, a small speck of truth from a TIGHAR member. Wonders never cease.

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  3. David Atchason | Reply

    I just read Loomis’ book. He Portrays Amelia as a flawed pilot and Fred as a hopeless alcoholic. He offers no real explanation for Amelia’s shocking lack of radio communication plans. He attributes her landing on Mili simply to her flying too far north (because Fred was sleeping it off, maybe) and then turning due west to land at Mili. My question is, why couldn’t Fred whip out his sextant and quickly determine their latitude, they would know they were at Marshall Island latitude.

    Loomis also claims the Japs were stationed on the atoll. so they knew she had crashed and were quick to find her. It sounds like a matter of a few hours at most, not the fishing boat story at all. The Japs were not amused. It seems any radio messages would have to go out within hours after she crashed so the timing of Paxton’s reception would have to be matching her landing time. If Loomis is to be believed the other messages days later were not genuine. Well maybe Fred took a jug on the plane and he was passed out and she just flew without him. not wanting to bother him, she thought she could do it herself. The other possibility is she landed in the Marshalls on purpose. Take your pick.


    1. David,

      No way the Jap fishing boat came to get the fliers within a few hours. Best evidence tells us they were there a few days at least. Nobody is claiming Loomis had all the answers. Paul Rafford himself told me that would not stand behind the statements he made in Loomis’ book about the range of the Electra radios, and he thought its range was quite limited (see p. 122 TAL.)

      A Japanese newspaper, Tokyo Advertiser reported July 13 that the fliers had been picked up, and on July 13 Koshu entered port at Jaluit, and on July 19 turned back for “Truk and Saipan.” (see TAL 141 and 150).



    2. Or, of course, chug-a-lug a bit of our snake oil, most recently brewed up in my historical novel, “Amelia Earhart UNRESCUED,” available on Amazon and NOT endorsed by Ric Gillespie.


  4. William H. Trail | Reply

    From Ms. Paxton’s notes of August 1937, she claimed that Amelia says Noonan was injured, and that he “doesn’t walk very well, and that he (Noonan) bruised his leg badly when landing.” That’s very interesting as the only people who could have possibly known that at the time were Amelia Earhart, Fred Noonan, Bilimon Amaron, and the Japanese. Add to this that this comes from a person who, from what we can discern of her, was the very model of an educated, mature, responsible, reasonable, stable adult. Those two factors take Ms. Paxton’s claims to the level of ‘compelling evidence.’

    All best,



  5. David Atchason | Reply

    So Fred supposedly gives the correct latitude after they crash to Ms Paxton. How come he couldn’t do that when they were still flying? Isn’t that pretty basic? So they are flying their LOP why not look for Howland at it’s correct latitude? Isn’t that Fred’s job? The LOP could have been way off, but the latitude could not be. Unless I am completely wrong and Fred could not do such a thing. Same goes for Nikumaroro they would know they were at its latitude and could have called on the radio to inform the Itasca. That is if they cared about getting rescued which they apparently didn’t. That’s why I believe they were not lost at all. No matter that Loomis sounds like it’s completely normal to make such a mistake if you are a goof of a pilot as he thinks Amelia was sometimes.


  6. Mike –

    Another *Great article reinforcing the *TRUTH. Ric Gillespie loves the limelight, but after so many scuba dives and oxygen deprivation, he’s lost all consciousness to the *F*A*C*T*S*…. We wish Ric well in his retirement and horse riding.

    As for Thomas Fulling King – we wish you the very best with your book and that someday you may grasp the *TRUTH.


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    1. Being privy to the “TRUTH” must be wonderfully comforting.


      1. William H. Trail

        Devotion to the truth is the hallmark of morality; there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.

        –AYN RAND, Atlas Shrugged



  7. David Atchason | Reply

    By my rough calculation since I can’t find my Pacific map, the time in the Marshalls would have been about 7 AM on the 4th July. Since that is long after she would have landed it would seem Loomis is wrong and it might have taken days for the Japs to pick her up. I agree completely on the main point which is that she landed in the Marshalls. Of course the Japs might have forced her to transmit messages to see American reaction. If the right wing actually broke off that would probably mean the generator in the starboard engine was not working so then you get into the question of whether her battery would supply enough power to operate radio.

    I say using high school science she would have had about an hour of transmission time, but I know some radio experts from that time say that was not possible with no explanation. But still, she and Fred managed to find a dozen or so foreign airports with no trouble so if they were about to ditch the plane, surely they could have said “We are at 5 degrees North (definite), we think somewhere around 170 East or whatever it was, we see an island we are going to try to land on or near it. It;s probably one of the Marshall Islands from our rude map.” But they didn’t say that, of course. If they had, the Japs would have known she was not actually completely lost.


    1. David,
      Noonan could not take an accurate celestial fix while flying in daylight. That is the reason why Earhart reported only a sun line reading. Noonan needed known stars, planets, and/or the moon to get an accurate latitude and longitude plot.

      Go to this site for a simple overview (which in my mind is not simple).

      Les Kinney


      1. Thank you for replying, Les. I was under the impression that you could find your latitude by taking a sight with your sextant at noon. Seeing as how they were flying an LOP north and south they should have had a pretty good idea what longitude they were at and could tell when noontime rolled around.

        Now possibly their LOP was wildly off for some reason so then they would not have been able to determine noon so easily. But he could have found the highest point of the sun in the sky by observation, had he the time and inclination. Assuming they were still aloft at noon. Then there is the possibility he could have found the bearing of the Jaluit AM radio station which has been mentioned by some, nobody has ever said he couldn’t have done that, the question is did he? With that bearing and “flying the line” or whatever it’s called he could have determined his position roughly with about an hour’s flying time, I should think.

        Or just using his LOP assuming that was roughly accurate and getting a bearing on the radio station he also could have determined his position at least to the extent of knowing he was at Marshalls latitude or Howland latitude. I would say of course he could have found his latitude during daylight at least at noontime, he didn’t have to wait until it got dark. My conjecture is simply that they were not lost and deliberately flew to the Marshalls for whatever reason, and they made every effort to appear “lost” by their bumbling radio setup and probably her intentional effort to make their messages too short for a DF fix. I have never seen on this TTAL forum any expert on celestial navigation as practiced before GPS or LOran to explain just what Fred could have or could not do for navigation. I apologize if you really are that expert and I’m just being stubborn and obtuse.


  8. Another great article, Mike. Thank you for always keeping the faith and never letting us down.

    Disregard detractors and attention-seekers like Dr. King whose sole purpose is to advertise his novel anywhere and anyway he can.


  9. Thomas King –

    In all the previous years that I had studied Amelia Earhart’s disappearance, I remember Ric Gillespie’s shallow, once a year cliff hangers on the news, that led to nothing…

    It wasn’t until I was reading an online, Amelia Earhart article, that I saw Mike Campbell’s name & e-mail on an article that he wrote. I e-mailed Mike and he immediately replied back. He introduced me to Fred Goerner’s & Thomas Devine’s books, advised me to read book by book, author by author and educated me step by step into the F*A*C*T*S* of Amelia Earhart’s fate from the Marshall Islands to Saipan. No other author had ever done this before, when I had inquired. Mike introduced me to *Les Kinney & *Dick Spink’s work in the Marshall Islands. These two men were professionals with their research and in the field findings/artifacts. They proved beyond a doubt, that Amelia & Fred did land in the Marshall Islands/*Barre Island. Their conversations with lifetime residents and in depth interviews.

    All three of these men – *Mike Campbell, *Les Kinney and *Dick Spink have worked tirelessly in the pursuit of the *TRUTH and have shown the world the *F*A*C*T*S*.

    I have the utmost *RESPECT, *ADMIRATION and *APPRECIATION for these *Professionals and the dedication & sacrifices they have made on behalf of Amelia Earhart & Fred Noonan’s TRUE place in our American History. GOD *BLESS them and their continued work for the *TRUTH.



    1. Doug I couldn’t agree w/ you more! Mike did same with me, when I was confused he would clear it up for me. Your post is 100% right on the mark. True also regarding the other 2 researchers u mentioned. Great men, all 3.


      1. When an ex-FBI employee can declare himself “absolutely” certain about something that’s inherently speculative, I can’t help but worry about the quality of the FBI’s work.


  10. William H. Trail | Reply

    One simply has to shake one’s head in wonder. In the 33 years since 1985 when Ric Gillespie founded The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery (TIGHAR) they have not found, much less “recovered,” a single aircraft, historic or otherwise. NOT ONE. Despite other claimed endeavors by TIGHAR — such as “Project: Midnight Ghost” (the alleged search for Charles Nungesser, Francois Coli, and L’Oiseau Blanc), their most recent announcement proclaiming commencement of a search for the Noorduyn UC-64A Norseman (#44-70285) in which famed USAAF band leader Major Alton Glenn Miller went missing in December 1944, and the find (by a non-TIGHAR person) of a Lockheed P-38 off the coast of Wales that TIGHAR has now presumptuously named “The Maid of Harwich” — TIGHAR remains nonetheless laser-focused to the seeming exclusion of everything else on their farcical “Nikumaroro Theory.” Why is that?

    Thirty-three years is an awfully long time to not only investigate, but shamelessly flog a meritless theory. One might believe that TIGHAR’s ultimate goal vis-a-vis the disappearance of Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan has devolved into something less to do with discovering and bringing the truth to light and more with simply winning an argument at any cost. And that, my friends, is sad. Proverbs 16:18 tells us that pride goeth before a fall, and haughtiness before disaster. If TIGHAR has proved anything with it’s stubborn persistence with “Niku” and their smug dismissal of the veritable tsunami of credible evidence supporting the truth of Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan’s capture by the Japanese and deaths on Saipan, it’s that they possess pride and haughtiness in abundance.

    All best,



    1. William,

      Thanks for your thoughtful comments, all quite accurate. But you forgot to mention the main and really only reason for the continual TIGHAR onslaught against the truth that’s lying in plain sight. It’s all about the MONEY and it always has been. With the help of his allies at the top of the Washington establishment, Gillespie has raked in millions over the years to support his charade, and very little of that money is coming from the man on the street, with whom you and I are so familiar. Do I need to remind anyone of the infamous 2012 photo of Gillespie and her lowness, Hillary Clinton? Talk about showing your ankle!

      I know from long experience how much real interest in the Earhart case is out there, and it’s scant to say the least. We have collected a mere pittance for the most worthy of any current Earhart-related movement — the Earhart memorial monument project on Saipan — and almost none of it has come from the people of Saipan, who are the hapless victims of 81 years of concentrated U.S. propaganda in the Earhart disappearance.

      Follow the MONEY and you will find the motivations for nearly everything, especially an endeavor like this, which stinks more with each passing year.



      1. Yup, and the rest of us who’ve investigated the Niku hypothesis over the years are motivated only by the desire to keep Ric comfortable. What sort of strange hold does he have on us?


  11. Stealth_Virus_CCID | Reply

    I can see some people are very passionate about Earhart and Noonan being captured, but is there is any proof of that, besides hearsay and rumors and speculation?
    I used to think for most of my life that they just crashed into the ocean, since the sea is so vast, after they perhaps got lost and ran out of fuel.
    Recently though my mind has changed. They had 1100 gallons of fuel, which was an almost 4 hour reserve and would have been enough to get there.
    What makes more sense is that they flew south, after Noonan determined their LOP.
    If only she had said in her last message about their LOP that they were flying south along it. They flew south because if they were already north of Howland and tried to go North then it would be only open ocean for thousands of miles, but there were some islands to the south of Howland that they could perhaps ditch at even if they missed Howland.
    The USS Colorado did launch 3 planes which flew by Gardner Island but possible that by that time the plane had already sank over the edge of the reef.
    It is too bad that no one thought to search the southern islands sooner instead of sending everyone towards the northwest of Howland, where there were clouds that day.
    The 2nd island was very small and had little tall vegetation and mostly full of birds, so essentially there was really only one place they could have landed, Gardner.
    Noonan may not have even been alive anymore by the time the planes flew by, and if Earhardt had an ankle or foot injury then she would have had a difficult time getting out to the beach try and get their attention.
    Camping right by the beach was probably not an option due to the coconut crabs. Probably not anywhere on that island is safe from those things.
    The analysis of the post loss messages corresponding with the times of the low and high tides is also very interesting, and it makes sense logically.
    Especially with the reading of Betty’s notebook and the wreck on the reef.
    There was some physical evidence found on the island even including human bones but until the actual plane wreckage is found people will still choose to believe whatever they wish to.
    The plane may not even be recoverable because it could have been pulverized by the ocean after it sank against the reef, similar to how the sea eventually destroyed the ship.
    To me this mystery has been solved, they crashed at the reef on Gardner Island ,where they perished.


    1. You ask if there is any proof of besides “hearsay and rumors and speculation”….the answer is YES; the Electra was found in a hangar at Aslito Field during the June 1944 U.S. invasion of Saipan; Earskin Nabors decoded the message that it was found, and also decoded the message for U.S. forces to destroy it; Thomas Devine inspected it up close and also witnessed it’s destruction; General Alexander A. Vandegrift, General Graves Erskine and Pacific Fleet Commander Admiral Chester W. Nimitz all confirmed Earhart and Noonan’s presence and demise on Saipan. There is the first 1%; for the other 99% I suggest you read Amelia Earhart: The Truth At Last.


      1. For what it’s worth, all those “proofs” are allegations of fact; they may or may not be true.


      2. Thanks Tom. I was thinking that no one would step up, but your brief answer covered it quite well. Based on his extensive drivel in favor of the TIGHAR lies, however, I highly doubt Mr. Stealth Virus is going to rush to order Truth at Last. The truth is the last thing people like Stealth Virus are interested in.



      3. TK; “Proof” is “evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement”…. “the evidence or argument that compels the mind to accept an assertion as true”….”evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true, or to produce belief in its truth”.


  12. Stealth_Virus_CCID | Reply

    Regarding Nina Paxton I don’t think she was wrong in that she heard Earhart but if you look at the original newspaper article and what she said later she tends to add a lot more details later that were never mentioned in the paper. Also when she thought she heard “northeast” she may have been hearing “Norwich” , which was the name of the ship they crashed near on Gardner. The original article even said she was not sure what she heard, then later on she is so sure that they are in the Marshalls. IF Earhardt was really sure and really saying that they were in the Marshall Islands then some other people would have heard something similar in their post loss message receptions.
    Furthermore, regarding the cadaver dogs the original skeleton which was found only had 13 bones to it. Probably the coconut crabs took the other bones to their undergound layers, and which are perhaps still probably buried there. I am not sure if a dog could find a bone in the ground after 80 years, but considering also the bones of Noonan are missing then bringing dogs along to look was not completely illogical.


    1. You are aptly named, Stealth Virus. This is your first and last warning. I’m not going allow your idiocy to spread any further than it already has. Don’t waste your time sending any more of your garbage here. I’m letting your comments stand only because I don’t want to be accused of not being “fair,” and also to see who if anyone besides me will step in to correct you and your overwhelming ignorance.


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